more bones…

damn! i have studio work to do!! and bella has cats to chase…

but can’t let this go either…

OK…so looking at my incoming referrals i see this page:
(the following image is a screen shot from the Mexicali Blues clothing line blog post available at the aforementioned link)

tie dye is so cool... especially when you use the work of others to sell your stuff without permission

apparently the “no rules” clause applies to marketing as well here. i tried to post a comment asking them to remove my image but it wouldn’t take so i will just post it here. maybe someone will let them know i would like it removed.

a very early image from some of my first indigo experiments with shibori on silk

it’s been there a while- i just hadn’t seen it until now.

i did find a Fb page and posted a request to have it removed. sheesh. apparently they are a clothing store in Maine and have over 11M likes on their page… and for those of you wondering….i also deleted my pinterest account over a month ago as so much was being lost.
the folks at pinterest have some strange ideas…

http://www.dmcahandbook.com/2012/02/changes-needed-to-pinterests-dmca-policy/

and this from Thunderpaw: Pinterest – A Lawsuit Waiting to Happen
i’m sticking with flickr- folks there have more respect.

that is all…carry on.

38 thoughts on “more bones…

  1. arlee

    if we all emailed the company, that perhaps might help–a bit–the email is on the blogger profile page—-incomprehensibe behaviour–a cheesy effort at crediting you but for their glory

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  2. Rachel

    Shibori Girl, Sorry for the theft of your photo/work. The web is new territory, I think, and I appreciate you sharing your blog/photos/enthusiasm of shibori despite the risk of appropriation. Perhaps you call the company and speak to them? Good luck. I follow you on FB because I love shibori and indigo, too.

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  3. Betty

    If any consolation at all (we say fools consolation) – they stole your picture and not your design. I had a necklace design copied and it made me nuts… a whole line was produced based on my pompom glass necklace design, and I’m afraid it is being done again, in Italy this time.

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  4. shiborigirl Post author

    oh goodness. going nuts won’t work. over the years i could tell many stories. just trying to keep the faith here-for all or sakes. i like that- fool’s consolation!

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  5. KittyAnn

    I know it’s bad to use your photo without permission but they at least give a clickable link back to you. More than most do out there in the wild-n-free web zone. And if I may add, I actually found out about you through such a link from a blog last year. Don’t remember who/where but I’m sure they didn’t have permission to use your examples either. But, I did find you through that rogue linkback and that’s a good thing. =)

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  6. Sue McB

    I could not agree more – it is nothing short of stealing. I deleted a Pintrest account too, and have found images taken from my blog and pinned. It is a breach of copyright too……with my photos, my watermark is getting bigger and bigger…..

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  7. colleen

    thank you for your comments on pinterest. I have personally posted your flowers there, thinking it would be a favor to you as long as they were acknowledged, but I will now remove everything and go back to having the junkiest desktop files in the universe.

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  8. neki desu

    i got an invite for pinterest and when i went there it gave me the shudders so i didn’t sign up. it’s getting so difficult.. 2 photos from flickr of my work went viral via tumbler. still don’t know whether to be flattered or pissed.

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    1. shiborigirl Post author

      i joined it when i found lots of my images there without attribution so i joined in order to correct what i could. then i got out.

      plus you are smarter than me neki! you have better intuition on some of this than i do…

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  9. deedeemallon

    yuck!@! I once saw a picture of a quilt of mine advertising a craft show I wasn’t even in, without any attribution whatsoever!

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    1. shiborigirl Post author

      i’ve had that happen and then had folks emailing and calling me mad that i didn’t show up to the show and they had driven miles just to attend and see me! jeeze. one more absurd one- you may remember the craigslist ad someone placed a while back in the LA area that advertised shibori classes and was using my images in the ad. oh boy….

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      1. deedeemallon

        ugh. And I really hear how you don’t want to spend time on this and also can’t let it slide! Sort of a lose/lose.

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      2. Morna Crites-Moore

        oops! This is where I meant to say that really takes the cake – the person who advertised shibori classes using images of your work! Truly amazing.

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  10. Mexicali Blues

    Hi Glennis, We have removed your shibori image from our blog post about tie dye techniques. We shared it in good faith, with a link back to your site, in a post meant to educate our readers on different techniques of artful dyeing. We hoped that giving proper credit would direct our readership to your work, and certainly do not want to take credit for the work of others!

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    1. shiborigirl Post author

      thank you. and from your CEO via FB-

      Hi Glennis,
      Topher Mallory also commented on Mexicali Blues’s Wall post.
      Topher wrote: “Hi Glennis, as the CEO of Mexicali Blues, I would like to both apologize and explain that our intent was merely to send business your way. We utilized clear links to your site from our blog and website that garners 10,000’s of daily views. We removed the picture and links as of this morning per your request. My personal cell phone is xxx-xxx-xxxx I would love to apology in person, I am very sorry for wasting your time and energy on this.”

      I appreciate the exercise in PR but really, to say that your intention was to send business my way is insulting. Carry on…

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  11. Topher Mallory

    We would not have linked the image and given you credit if that had not been our intent. Would you mind giving us credit for our imagery above? And if it is not asking to much, please remove or xxxxxx out a portion of my cell phone number.
    I am surprised that our sincerity was somehow lost in translation.
    Topher Mallory

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    1. Cate

      Surely Topher Mallory cannot be so naive. If you wish to feature other artists – to benefit them – you seek their permission and write and article about them – say as HandEye – We, in this country, often balk at trademark/copywrite laws when we return from foreign travels with designer knockoffs meant to pass as the originals. This is how failure to honor others intellectual property rights moves down the road – to the small struggling local artists. If you are as naive as you say, perhaps you should take some time to truly educate yourself on this subject.

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  12. shiborigirl Post author

    Topher- i also saw your open twitter feed-
    you said:
    “You gotta love when a 2 year old blog post that created traffic for another business becomes a problem! shiborigirl.wordpress.com/2012/02/29/mor…”

    thanks for the favor….i guess. instead of asking you to remove my image i should be thanking you for the 3 referred visits in my feed. mea culpa!

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    1. sjlocke

      Wow, that is arrogant. They should be glad they got away with it for two years, and you didn’t decide to sure for Getty style RM rates for use of the image. And that you should be bowing down for the “free traffic”? That’s the number one mantra of Pinterest/”Help Yourself” fans.

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  13. shiborigirl Post author

    you know, based on your twitter response, i think it might be impossible for you to really appreciate the point here. as someone whose business it is to market and sell imported clothing, jewelry, trinkets, and so forth (you) as opposed to someone who designs, makes by hand, and teaches for a living (me) i don’t think you can understand the damage that gets done by associating your imported clothing products (sweet hippie, funky bohemian chic buddha, exotic eclectic zen) with my work. just because someone clicked a link from your site to mine does not mean that i benefited from this association as you seem to infer. the inference is exactly the opposite. you are trying to associate your inexpensive imported clothing products with more artisan quality ideals and benefit from the association. happens all the time. i still don’t like it.

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    1. steelparade

      Topher sounds like a piece of work, don’t you think? by his logic, i should be able to steal his property, use it for my own profit, and expect him to be grateful. maybe i could stop by his business and steal his car, and let him know that it will be good for him to allow me to steal his car because i’ll be using his car to let potential new customers ride in it……..and those people will learn of Topher and his great business and possibly become new customers for him. makes sense to me. i like it!

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  14. Dan Snow

    Hey! Followed my way here from facebook. I have been shopping at Mexicali for years and years. The owners are good people. I mean truly genuine and down to earth folks. For what it’s worth I think they should have asked permission, but I also think this was an honest mistake.

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  15. jude

    same old shit. people in business understand these things very well and pretend they are honest mistakes when they are called on it. the problem that internet folks just don';t seem to understand is that it is all PUBLISHING. You can’t put someone else’s photo in your own book without asking even if you give credit, can you? geez!. wake up folks. c’mon.

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  16. shiborigirl Post author

    Hey!

    -for what it’s worth, thanks for clarifying that by way of personal reference Dan. but “honest mistake”? really?

    just try this: google the word shibori-then click on images. the image they used is the first one that appears (among many other images of mine) . so really, i think lazy arrogance is more like it. i can understand that.
    i like to be able to choose for myself how, with what, and where my
    images appear and are used in association with other peoples products and businesses.
    what if i started pulling down images of their product off their website to illustrate a story on my blog as to why and how so many imported textiles and clothing items take advantage of third world and impoverished peoples not to mention the devastation to their health and environment due to lack of oversight or concern for such things? just so we in this country can have cool hip disposable clothing at dirt cheap prices and folks can make some $. i would happily link back to their website….
    in other words, don’t use my work to promote the aforementioned.

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  17. shiborigirl Post author

    the poles of dyed silk are steaming and i have benefited from some quiet studio time. another order will be shipped tomorrow. but all the same, considering all the issues with pinterest these days this will sadly become an even worse problem. Mexicali Blues (aside from whatever their motives or mistakes) actually DID link back to me but with pinterest behaving the way it currently does, the future will begin to look very different. did you see the chinese version of Conan’s show? hilarious. the only solution now it to educate and to speak out. this is a great article i came across on Christi Carter’s FB page-a lot to read if you follow down all the links but many worth the time:

    http://seanlockephotography.com/2012/02/15/thoughts-from-others-on-pinterest/

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  18. Morna Crites-Moore

    Hi Glennis – I was just looking at the blog in question and it looks like maybe they have removed your sampler photo of your early shibori explorations. The joyful woman in the tie-died shirt is still there. I left the following comment: “Your first photo in this post belongs to Glennis Dolce, who has not granted you permission to use it. You are violating her copyright.”

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  19. Morna Crites-Moore

    I’ve read all these comments with great interest and a wee bit of squirming – because I have a tumblr blog (morna.tumblr.com) which I think is really extremely beautiful and well curated (by me) where I post pictures of the work of others. I always identify the artist (except in the very rare instance where I might not be able to) and I link back to the artist’s page – unless I am reblogging someone else’s tumblr post, in which case I link back to THEIR page AND, if I am able to identify the origination of the image, I link to that as well. I do this in true appreciation of beautiful work and as a sincere desire to enlarge the exposure of an artist’s work. One extremely rare occasion, I have posted a photo of one of my own pieces at this blog, but it is 99% the work of others. It is not to benefit me. So – what is your opinion of that? In tumblr land, it is recognized as a lovely honor to have your work posted and reposted. I wouldn’t like it at all if someone used one of my images for their own commercial purposes. And I don’t much care for it when someone outright copies my work and then says that they were “inspired” by what I do. But when I post a piece of my work for all the world to see, and someone comes along and thinks it is beautiful, and reposts it, that tends to make me feel pretty good. It is a compliment. It generally brings more traffic to my website. It helps me to build name recognition and it increases the circle of people who like and appreciate what I do. So, I’m interested in your thoughts on this if you care to share them. xo

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